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Tom Kunich
Nov 13, 2023, 3:49:50 PM11/13/23
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I am told that Liebermann again claims that I never did what is on my resume. The tears flow freely from his eyes as my money in investments makes him feel so little that the only response he could possibly have is to cry that it ain't so.
Well, at least we can tell that he is always good for a laugh.
Well, at least we can tell that he is always good for a laugh.
John B.
Nov 13, 2023, 7:24:07 PM11/13/23
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can the rest of it be true?
<https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-kunich-22012/>
Education
Lowry AFB
Completed, Electronics
1965 - 1966
Activities and Societies: US Air Force Technical School
An obvious lie as, (1) you have admitted in other posts that you only
went to Tech School for 3 months, not the 1 year shown in above entry
and (2) the A.F. doesn't send people to school in their last year of
active duty service.
--
Cheers,
John B.
Jeff Liebermann
Nov 13, 2023, 11:20:15 PM11/13/23
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remove all doubt" Abraham Lincoln
--
Jeff Liebermann je...@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
John B.
Nov 14, 2023, 12:02:56 AM11/14/23
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On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 20:20:03 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com>
wrote:
>>I am told that Liebermann again claims that I never did what is on my resume. The tears flow freely from his eyes as my moneyin investments makes him feel so little that the only response he could possibly have is to cry that it ain't so.
As I previously noted, a bit ago you were bragging about "nearly 1
million" and about a month later you reported 2 million.
As I mentioned at that time your investment must be truly amazing to
double in only a month, or so. That would be in the neighborhood of
$2,048,000,000 after only one year's investment.
And you living in a "crap" house in a self described slum and driving
a clapped out old second hand car.
Will wonders never cease?
Or should that be phrased as, "will Tommy ever stop lying?"
--
Cheers,
John B.
wrote:
>>I am told that Liebermann again claims that I never did what is on my resume. The tears flow freely from his eyes as my moneyin investments makes him feel so little that the only response he could possibly have is to cry that it ain't so.
>>
>>Well, at least we can tell that he is always good for a laugh.
>
>"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to
>remove all doubt" Abraham Lincoln
Ayup... your investment....
>>Well, at least we can tell that he is always good for a laugh.
>
>"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to
>remove all doubt" Abraham Lincoln
As I previously noted, a bit ago you were bragging about "nearly 1
million" and about a month later you reported 2 million.
As I mentioned at that time your investment must be truly amazing to
double in only a month, or so. That would be in the neighborhood of
$2,048,000,000 after only one year's investment.
And you living in a "crap" house in a self described slum and driving
a clapped out old second hand car.
Will wonders never cease?
Or should that be phrased as, "will Tommy ever stop lying?"
--
Cheers,
John B.
Jeff Liebermann
Nov 14, 2023, 2:49:00 PM11/14/23
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On Tue, 14 Nov 2023 12:02:48 +0700, John B. <sloc...@gmail.com>
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/cgGQO6bPU8w/m/EKViBoe-AgAJ>
"So I cashed in my stock options from a successful company and used
that million dollars to pay for her treatment."
12/25/2022
<ttps://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/njA7DYpUtww/m/uTnjTb6DAwAJ>
"I'm worth nearly two million now and can live almost entirely on my
social security. Can you? Even with my expensive bicycle hobby I own
less than $1,600 TOTAL. And I knocked my bank account down to just
enough to cover emergencies since the Democrats are now attacking
banks which will drive them into bankruptcy."
01/07/2023
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/2FS5CrA2NTs/m/3RMpAhArAQAJ>
"Imagine that Frank believes me in misery with a sum worth of a
million and a half dollars and no bills..."
01/20/2023
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/85qODEJbdFE/m/uHojwq_tAQAJ>
"If I had not needed to cash in my stock option to gain cancer
treatments for my mother and then getting a divorce, I would easily
have been a multimillionaire. Instead I am only worth about a million
and a half due to Biden's latest market recession."
03/05/2023
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/JG80Gv6eFz4/m/I5iXXkCRAgAJ>
"Lou, I am worth a million and 3/4 dollars. Exactly what are you
worth?"
04/29/2023
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/vRf9zk39jnc/m/Pccwf7dbBAAJ>
"I was making up to a quarter of a million dollars a year while
Krygowski was making $2.50 a day."
05/08/2023
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/Xe0OfRKbW30/m/COmHdGuLBgAJ>
"I am now officially a millionaire aside from the investment in my
home."
06/24/2023
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/5ePyZOO6V9g/m/SUaP7P6lAAAJ>
"Last month I lost $7,000 from my investments. Bad news for them is
that I still have well over a million dollars."
"A million here, a million there, and pretty soon you're talking real
money" Originally by Everett Dirksen
>As I mentioned at that time your investment must be truly amazing to
>double in only a month, or so. That would be in the neighborhood of
>$2,048,000,000 after only one year's investment.
>
>And you living in a "crap" house in a self described slum and driving
>a clapped out old second hand car.
>
>Will wonders never cease?
>
>Or should that be phrased as, "will Tommy ever stop lying?"
If Tom's past performance is any indication of his future results,
it's unlikely he will ever be caught telling the truth.
wrote:
>On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 20:20:03 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 12:49:48 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
>><cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I am told that Liebermann again claims that I never did what is on my resume. The tears flow freely from his eyes as my moneyin investments makes him feel so little that the only response he could possibly have is to cry that it ain't so.
>>>
>>>Well, at least we can tell that he is always good for a laugh.
>>
>>"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to
>>remove all doubt" Abraham Lincoln
>
>Ayup... your investment....
>
>As I previously noted, a bit ago you were bragging about "nearly 1
>million" and about a month later you reported 2 million.
04/18/2021
>On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 20:20:03 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 12:49:48 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
>><cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I am told that Liebermann again claims that I never did what is on my resume. The tears flow freely from his eyes as my moneyin investments makes him feel so little that the only response he could possibly have is to cry that it ain't so.
>>>
>>>Well, at least we can tell that he is always good for a laugh.
>>
>>"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to
>>remove all doubt" Abraham Lincoln
>
>Ayup... your investment....
>
>As I previously noted, a bit ago you were bragging about "nearly 1
>million" and about a month later you reported 2 million.
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/cgGQO6bPU8w/m/EKViBoe-AgAJ>
"So I cashed in my stock options from a successful company and used
that million dollars to pay for her treatment."
12/25/2022
<ttps://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/njA7DYpUtww/m/uTnjTb6DAwAJ>
"I'm worth nearly two million now and can live almost entirely on my
social security. Can you? Even with my expensive bicycle hobby I own
less than $1,600 TOTAL. And I knocked my bank account down to just
enough to cover emergencies since the Democrats are now attacking
banks which will drive them into bankruptcy."
01/07/2023
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/2FS5CrA2NTs/m/3RMpAhArAQAJ>
"Imagine that Frank believes me in misery with a sum worth of a
million and a half dollars and no bills..."
01/20/2023
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/85qODEJbdFE/m/uHojwq_tAQAJ>
"If I had not needed to cash in my stock option to gain cancer
treatments for my mother and then getting a divorce, I would easily
have been a multimillionaire. Instead I am only worth about a million
and a half due to Biden's latest market recession."
03/05/2023
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/JG80Gv6eFz4/m/I5iXXkCRAgAJ>
"Lou, I am worth a million and 3/4 dollars. Exactly what are you
worth?"
04/29/2023
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/vRf9zk39jnc/m/Pccwf7dbBAAJ>
"I was making up to a quarter of a million dollars a year while
Krygowski was making $2.50 a day."
05/08/2023
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/Xe0OfRKbW30/m/COmHdGuLBgAJ>
"I am now officially a millionaire aside from the investment in my
home."
06/24/2023
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/5ePyZOO6V9g/m/SUaP7P6lAAAJ>
"Last month I lost $7,000 from my investments. Bad news for them is
that I still have well over a million dollars."
"A million here, a million there, and pretty soon you're talking real
money" Originally by Everett Dirksen
>As I mentioned at that time your investment must be truly amazing to
>double in only a month, or so. That would be in the neighborhood of
>$2,048,000,000 after only one year's investment.
>
>And you living in a "crap" house in a self described slum and driving
>a clapped out old second hand car.
>
>Will wonders never cease?
>
>Or should that be phrased as, "will Tommy ever stop lying?"
it's unlikely he will ever be caught telling the truth.
Tom Kunich
Nov 14, 2023, 3:59:41 PM11/14/23
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On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 12:49:50 PM UTC-8, Tom Kunich wrote:
> I am told that Liebermann again claims that I never did what is on my resume. The tears flow freely from his eyes as my money in investments makes him feel so little that the only response he could possibly have is to cry that it ain't so.
>
> Well, at least we can tell that he is always good for a laugh.
I see that there are five entries of which I can only see mine. I guess this is Liebermann sniveling again after he told us that it took his 6 years to get a BA EE and he still didn't know anything about transistor logic and believed himself clever for knowing how vacuum tubes worked.
> I am told that Liebermann again claims that I never did what is on my resume. The tears flow freely from his eyes as my money in investments makes him feel so little that the only response he could possibly have is to cry that it ain't so.
>
> Well, at least we can tell that he is always good for a laugh.
Jeff Liebermann
Nov 14, 2023, 5:41:01 PM11/14/23
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On Tue, 14 Nov 2023 12:59:38 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>I see that there are five entries of which I can only see mine.
I see 6 messages on supernews.com, the last of which was yours.
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>I see that there are five entries of which I can only see mine.
You're lying (as usual). You use Google Groups to read RBT. I just
logged into my Google account and checked Google Groups for your
"Liebermann and tears" thread. All 6 messages are present and
accounted for:
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/cowbx-VJiEI/m/vrNxx430BwAJ>
Don't bother blaming eternal-september or your non-existent Usenet
kill file feature.
If the Paris 2024 Olympics include competition for the worlds best
amateur topic changer, you will surely win the fools gold medal. If
you compete in the Usenet amazing facts bake off, or the "off by a
mile" explanations, you will probably also win those medals.
>I guess this is Liebermann sniveling again after he told us that it took his 6 years to get a BA EE and he still didn't know anything about transistor logic and believed himself clever for knowing how vacuum tubes worked.
not a BA EE, whatever that might be. I explained why it took 6 years
and what little instruction we had on transistors in another posting.
I can find it for if you're having problems using Google Groups
search.
Amazingly, I did have an occasion when I though myself clever for
knowing about vacuum tubes. A group of techs and engineers that were
working at Intech Inc drove to the FCC offices in San Francisco to
take the FCC First and Second Class RadioTelephone license exams. I
passed because most of the test was about ancient tube, dynamotor,
Marconi antenna and similar topics from the stone age of radio. The
others failed because they had studied only the latest transistor
topics. I think that was in about 1976. That won't happen again
because the tests were updated long ago.
John B.
Nov 14, 2023, 6:05:54 PM11/14/23
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On Tue, 14 Nov 2023 14:40:48 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com>
wrote:
But... regardless of how many years it took you to get your degree you
did get it, which is better then Tommy, who was not capable of
finishing high school, did (:-)
--
Cheers,
John B.
wrote:
did get it, which is better then Tommy, who was not capable of
finishing high school, did (:-)
--
Cheers,
John B.
Tom Kunich
Nov 15, 2023, 11:40:34 AM11/15/23
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On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 12:49:50 PM UTC-8, Tom Kunich wrote:
> I am told that Liebermann again claims that I never did what is on my resume. The tears flow freely from his eyes as my money in investments makes him feel so little that the only response he could possibly have is to cry that it ain't so.
>
> Well, at least we can tell that he is always good for a laugh.
Yesterday I got my financial report and although I lost around $12,000 from the market being down, I still have a million in stable investments. I also got the most ridiculous offer I could believe, $180,000 a year to manage a construction company. While I am an experienced manager I know nothing about construction. Why would anyone offer me that sort of money to do something I don't know about? Could it be that they have choices like Liebermann, Flunky and Krygowski and I am so far above them that they will do anything to avoid the Stupid 4?
>
> Well, at least we can tell that he is always good for a laugh.
I also got a card in the mail offering me the present worth of my home ($880,000). I suppose they believe that they can clean it up and sell if for the same that the house around the corner went for ($1.1 million). It is certainly hell being the best to be had in the age of the paper ceiling.
Jeff Liebermann
Nov 15, 2023, 1:03:29 PM11/15/23
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On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 08:40:32 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Yesterday I got my financial report
It's really amazing that you always seem to need a financial report
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Yesterday I got my financial report
when the topic of your financial status appears on RBT. Must be a
coincidence.
>and although I lost around $12,000 from the market being down, I still have a million in stable investments.
In the last year, S&P 500 has gained +13% and Dow Jones gained +4%
<https://www.google.com/finance/quote/.INX:INDEXSP?comparison=INDEXDJX%3A.DJI&window=1Y>
Congratulations. You have invested in stocks that follow the opposite
of what the stock market is doing.
I assume "stable investments" means Blue Chip stocks, which generally
follow inflation and are purchased mostly by investors interested in
low risk investments that will help combat inflation or provide a
steady income through dividends or coupon clipping:
<https://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/bluechipstock.asp>
Jeff Liebermann
Nov 15, 2023, 2:05:33 PM11/15/23
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On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 10:03:17 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com>
wrote:
>On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 08:40:32 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
><cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Yesterday I got my financial report
>
>It's really amazing that you always seem to need a financial report
>when the topic of your financial status appears on RBT. Must be a
>coincidence.
>
>>and although I lost around $12,000 from the market being down, I still have a million in stable investments.
>
>A $12,000 loss on $1 million is a -12% loss.
Oops. That's should be a -1.2% loss. No clue is that's a monthly,
quarterly, or annual loss.
wrote:
>On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 08:40:32 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
><cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Yesterday I got my financial report
>
>It's really amazing that you always seem to need a financial report
>when the topic of your financial status appears on RBT. Must be a
>coincidence.
>
>>and although I lost around $12,000 from the market being down, I still have a million in stable investments.
>
>A $12,000 loss on $1 million is a -12% loss.
quarterly, or annual loss.
Tom Kunich
Nov 15, 2023, 2:13:38 PM11/15/23
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On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 12:49:50 PM UTC-8, Tom Kunich wrote:
> I am told that Liebermann again claims that I never did what is on my resume. The tears flow freely from his eyes as my money in investments makes him feel so little that the only response he could possibly have is to cry that it ain't so.
>
> Well, at least we can tell that he is always good for a laugh.
" Your good friend Jeffy tells us that the Dow gained 13% this year so you're lying when you say you lost money"
>
> Well, at least we can tell that he is always good for a laugh.
Liebermann is living on food stamps and charity because he doesn't have a passing brain in his head.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnnavin/2023/10/31/dow-industrials-3-months-of-down-with-major-stocks-breaking-support/
Whenever he makes a comment you can be absolutely sure it is wrong because of his stupidity or he is purposely lying.
sms
Nov 15, 2023, 4:04:12 PM11/15/23
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On 11/13/2023 4:24 PM, John B. wrote:
<snip>
> An obvious lie as, (1) you have admitted in other posts that you only
> went to Tech School for 3 months, not the 1 year shown in above entry
> and (2) the A.F. doesn't send people to school in their last year of
> active duty service.
It could have been from November 1965 to January 1966.
--
“If you are not an expert on a subject, then your opinions about it
really do matter less than the opinions of experts. It's not
indoctrination nor elitism. It's just that you don't know as much as
they do about the subject.”—Tin Foil Awards
<snip>
> An obvious lie as, (1) you have admitted in other posts that you only
> went to Tech School for 3 months, not the 1 year shown in above entry
> and (2) the A.F. doesn't send people to school in their last year of
> active duty service.
--
“If you are not an expert on a subject, then your opinions about it
really do matter less than the opinions of experts. It's not
indoctrination nor elitism. It's just that you don't know as much as
they do about the subject.”—Tin Foil Awards
sms
Nov 15, 2023, 4:16:13 PM11/15/23
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On 11/13/2023 9:02 PM, John B. wrote:
<snip>
<snip>
> And you living in a "crap" house in a self described slum and driving
> a clapped out old second hand car.
You have to understand Bay Area housing prices. You're looking at a
> a clapped out old second hand car.
minimum of $3 million for a house in one of the Bay Area's nicer cities,
and even more in a higher-end city like Palo Alto. It would take all of
his alleged cash, plus the money from selling his current house (Zillow
values it at $833,100) to buy a house in a good city and neighborhood.
Tom Kunich
Nov 15, 2023, 4:49:31 PM11/15/23
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You can probably not go into an emergency hospital for anything serious without them either using instruments I designed and programmed or later generations of them. And that sprung from that electronics essentials class and not the 6 years in college that Liebermann used to crawl out of his responsibility for being in the Army. He could have missed Vietnam completely simply by joining the Army Reserve or the National Guard, but he found that also abhorrent since he is a coward to his very core.
You said that you're an EE as well. Remember when slime bucket Krygowski said that if I was a real EE to show what patents I hold? Tell him how many patents you have.
Tom Kunich
Nov 15, 2023, 5:24:48 PM11/15/23
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Were I to live in Palo Alto what would I gain? Stanford hires its own security because the Palo Alto cops do not have the manpower. East Palo Alto has always been one of the largest cesspools in the bay area with even west Oakland being safer. Silicon Valley itself is now GONE. All of the companies but Google have moved to Texas and Arizona. Crime is now so rampant there that no one can be safe and now the Palo Alto residents with sufficient property are building tall walls to protect themselves. You can hardly see the homes along University Ave due to the walls and remote controlled gates and private security guard patrolling all night. In Oakland Piedmont has started their own police department.
John feels safe from me via distance and the fact that I have no interest in a moronic ass. So he babbles on as if what he says has any meaning. Were it not for Google, he would even more the fool.
Even Flunky has stopped posting since someone who shall remain nameless but emails me said that he checked on his "racing" stories and none of them were true. And his stories about being an electronics engineer were seriously questioned when he could post within seconds of any questions about him turned up. What sort of engineer could do that? I NEVER had time to do anything but work on my projects as long as I was at work.
By the way - Google has announced layoffs because they are going to turn their entire search engine over to an AI. They even believe that they can use AI to mechanize all of their sibling companies. Wow, imagine how stupid an AI would have to be to replace Slocomb!
John B.
Nov 15, 2023, 6:10:24 PM11/15/23
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On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 13:49:28 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Wednesday, November 15, 2023 at 1:04:12?PM UTC-8, sms wrote:
>> On 11/13/2023 4:24 PM, John B. wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>> > An obvious lie as, (1) you have admitted in other posts that you only
>> > went to Tech School for 3 months, not the 1 year shown in above entry
>> > and (2) the A.F. doesn't send people to school in their last year of
>> > active duty service.
>> It could have been from November 1965 to January 1966.
>> --
>> 的f you are not an expert on a subject, then your opinions about it
>
>As is usual for that idiot Slocomb who received no training rat all from the Air Force. I had Electronics Essentials for 3 months followed by another 6 months of "systems" school which was USING the electronics essentials to learn the Bomb/Nav system itself. That was a lot of training for an Air Force position. Slocomb's training was his entrance exam to make sure that he could read and write and from his postings that was purely nominal.
You are correct Tommy. I had no training by the Air force. When I
enlisted I was am FAA licensed A&E Mechanic and the Air Force was
quite happy with that and when the reciprocating engine airplanes
phased out in SAC they were quite happy to accept my New Hampshire
Manufacturers certificate that I was a journeyman Machinist. So I
moved off the flight line and into the machine shop.
As for your training? You said just the other day that you went to
tech school for 3 months. And now you come up with the 6 months of
system school?
You mean, I think, that (1) you went to 3 months of tech school and
then you (2) had 6 months of OJT (On the Job Training) at your
assigned base. Which is normal training for most A.F. specialties.
But tell us Tommy. Did you ever pass your 5 level test? Or were you a
3 level until discharge.
For any that care, the Air force had 3 levels of skill for enlisted
men. 3 level - apprentice, 5 level - Journeyman and 7 level - Master.
Or in layman's language, Apprentice - a kid just starting out in the
trade, Journeyman - competent , can do the work alone, Master - fully
competent and can manage a group of workers.
--
Cheers,
John B.
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Wednesday, November 15, 2023 at 1:04:12?PM UTC-8, sms wrote:
>> On 11/13/2023 4:24 PM, John B. wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>> > An obvious lie as, (1) you have admitted in other posts that you only
>> > went to Tech School for 3 months, not the 1 year shown in above entry
>> > and (2) the A.F. doesn't send people to school in their last year of
>> > active duty service.
>> It could have been from November 1965 to January 1966.
>> --
>> really do matter less than the opinions of experts. It's not
>> indoctrination nor elitism. It's just that you don't know as much as
>> they do about the subject.迫Tin Foil Awards
>> indoctrination nor elitism. It's just that you don't know as much as
>
>As is usual for that idiot Slocomb who received no training rat all from the Air Force. I had Electronics Essentials for 3 months followed by another 6 months of "systems" school which was USING the electronics essentials to learn the Bomb/Nav system itself. That was a lot of training for an Air Force position. Slocomb's training was his entrance exam to make sure that he could read and write and from his postings that was purely nominal.
You are correct Tommy. I had no training by the Air force. When I
enlisted I was am FAA licensed A&E Mechanic and the Air Force was
quite happy with that and when the reciprocating engine airplanes
phased out in SAC they were quite happy to accept my New Hampshire
Manufacturers certificate that I was a journeyman Machinist. So I
moved off the flight line and into the machine shop.
As for your training? You said just the other day that you went to
tech school for 3 months. And now you come up with the 6 months of
system school?
You mean, I think, that (1) you went to 3 months of tech school and
then you (2) had 6 months of OJT (On the Job Training) at your
assigned base. Which is normal training for most A.F. specialties.
But tell us Tommy. Did you ever pass your 5 level test? Or were you a
3 level until discharge.
For any that care, the Air force had 3 levels of skill for enlisted
men. 3 level - apprentice, 5 level - Journeyman and 7 level - Master.
Or in layman's language, Apprentice - a kid just starting out in the
trade, Journeyman - competent , can do the work alone, Master - fully
competent and can manage a group of workers.
--
Cheers,
John B.
John B.
Nov 15, 2023, 6:20:47 PM11/15/23
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On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 13:16:05 -0800, sms <scharf...@geemail.com>
wrote:
>On 11/13/2023 9:02 PM, John B. wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>> And you living in a "crap" house in a self described slum and driving
>> a clapped out old second hand car.
>
>You have to understand Bay Area housing prices. You're looking at a
>minimum of $3 million for a house in one of the Bay Area's nicer cities,
>and even more in a higher-end city like Palo Alto. It would take all of
>his alleged cash, plus the money from selling his current house (Zillow
>values it at $833,100) to buy a house in a good city and neighborhood.
Yes, I know. The house is a single story, 3 bedroom, built on a slab,
"mass produced" house that was originally sold for, in the region of
$70,000, and due to California house inflation is now, subject to
condition, possibly valued at a much higher price.
It is still a crap house".
--
Cheers,
John B.
wrote:
>On 11/13/2023 9:02 PM, John B. wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>> And you living in a "crap" house in a self described slum and driving
>> a clapped out old second hand car.
>
>You have to understand Bay Area housing prices. You're looking at a
>minimum of $3 million for a house in one of the Bay Area's nicer cities,
>and even more in a higher-end city like Palo Alto. It would take all of
>his alleged cash, plus the money from selling his current house (Zillow
>values it at $833,100) to buy a house in a good city and neighborhood.
"mass produced" house that was originally sold for, in the region of
$70,000, and due to California house inflation is now, subject to
condition, possibly valued at a much higher price.
It is still a crap house".
--
Cheers,
John B.
John B.
Nov 15, 2023, 6:35:37 PM11/15/23
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On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 14:24:46 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Wednesday, November 15, 2023 at 1:16:13?PM UTC-8, sms wrote:
>> On 11/13/2023 9:02 PM, John B. wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>> > And you living in a "crap" house in a self described slum and driving
>> > a clapped out old second hand car.
>> You have to understand Bay Area housing prices. You're looking at a
>> minimum of $3 million for a house in one of the Bay Area's nicer cities,
>> and even more in a higher-end city like Palo Alto. It would take all of
>> his alleged cash, plus the money from selling his current house (Zillow
>> values it at $833,100) to buy a house in a good city and neighborhood.
>> --
>> 的f you are not an expert on a subject, then your opinions about it
https://thailand-real.estate/property/bangkok/villas/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=20272319694&utm_content=662497873842&utm_term=house%20bangkok.p.c...&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI67H815PHggMVBi2DAx1fWgg1EAAYAyAAEgKN7_D_BwE
To equate with values in the U.S. divide the selling Baht price by 340
(Thailand minimum daily salary) and multiply by the daily salary in
your location.
--
Cheers,
John B.
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Wednesday, November 15, 2023 at 1:16:13?PM UTC-8, sms wrote:
>> On 11/13/2023 9:02 PM, John B. wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>> > And you living in a "crap" house in a self described slum and driving
>> > a clapped out old second hand car.
>> You have to understand Bay Area housing prices. You're looking at a
>> minimum of $3 million for a house in one of the Bay Area's nicer cities,
>> and even more in a higher-end city like Palo Alto. It would take all of
>> his alleged cash, plus the money from selling his current house (Zillow
>> values it at $833,100) to buy a house in a good city and neighborhood.
>> --
>> really do matter less than the opinions of experts. It's not
>> indoctrination nor elitism. It's just that you don't know as much as
>> they do about the subject.迫Tin Foil Awards
>> indoctrination nor elitism. It's just that you don't know as much as
>
>John drives a junker and lives in a slum far from Bangkok, not that anywhere around Bangkok isn't a slum. So this is what he says about others. My 2009 Taurus X is exactly the same car as the 2011 Ford Explorer except it has a better engine and wheels 2" smaller in diameter. I would not bother to take out any dents in it in an area where the POLICE cars are often badly dented. I drove by a CHP car this morning that had the front bumper hanging loose.
Yup certainly. Tommy declared Bangkok slum housing:
>John drives a junker and lives in a slum far from Bangkok, not that anywhere around Bangkok isn't a slum. So this is what he says about others. My 2009 Taurus X is exactly the same car as the 2011 Ford Explorer except it has a better engine and wheels 2" smaller in diameter. I would not bother to take out any dents in it in an area where the POLICE cars are often badly dented. I drove by a CHP car this morning that had the front bumper hanging loose.
https://thailand-real.estate/property/bangkok/villas/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=20272319694&utm_content=662497873842&utm_term=house%20bangkok.p.c...&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI67H815PHggMVBi2DAx1fWgg1EAAYAyAAEgKN7_D_BwE
To equate with values in the U.S. divide the selling Baht price by 340
(Thailand minimum daily salary) and multiply by the daily salary in
your location.
--
Cheers,
John B.
Frank Krygowski
Nov 15, 2023, 8:59:23 PM11/15/23
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On 11/15/2023 4:49 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> Remember when slime bucket Krygowski said that if I was a real EE to show what patents I hold?
Nope. I never, ever said that.
> Remember when slime bucket Krygowski said that if I was a real EE to show what patents I hold?
I did say that you're not and never were an Electrical Engineer. I stand
by that statement.
--
- Frank Krygowski
Jeff Liebermann
Nov 15, 2023, 9:32:57 PM11/15/23
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On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 11:13:35 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 12:49:50?PM UTC-8, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> I am told that Liebermann again claims that I never did what is on my resume. The tears flow freely from his eyes as my money in investments makes him feel so little that the only response he could possibly have is to cry that it ain't so.
>>
>> Well, at least we can tell that he is always good for a laugh.
>
>" Your good friend Jeffy tells us that the Dow gained 13% this year so you're lying when you say you lost money"
I didn't write that and you're not qualified to tell anyone what I
wrote. Your interpretation of what someone else said is always (and I
do mean always) distorted, misinterpreted and wrong. Also, please not
that when I quote someone, I try to include the source of the
quotation. You don't do that.
>Liebermann is living on food stamps and charity because he doesn't have a passing brain in his head.
I'm living on Social Security, Medicare, and accumulated savings. I
have no loans or liens on my house. My 22 year old Subaru is paid
for. I have never applied for or collected food stamps.
Tom - Why do you find it necessary to lie? Do you need more
attention?
Also, you ignored my question. Was your $12,000 market loss for a
year, month, week, or day?
>https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnnavin/2023/10/31/dow-industrials-3-months-of-down-with-major-stocks-breaking-support/
Old news. That was correct for 3 weeks ago. The situation is
different today:
<https://www.google.com/finance/quote/.INX:INDEXSP?comparison=INDEXDJX%3A.DJI&window=1M>
Notice the upward trend in the during the last 30 days. +3% in the
last week for both S&P 500 and Dow Jones.
>Whenever he makes a comment you can be absolutely sure it is wrong because of his stupidity or he is purposely lying.
That applies nicely to your comment about the market dropping.
Optional question: Why do you reply to questions in a different
thread instead of directly to the person asking the question? Are you
like that in person, where you're afraid to face anyone who knows the
truth? No need to explain that you can't follow a thread using Google
Groups. I have the same problem. What I want to know is if you're
doing it intentionally or you don't know how to operate a Usenet news
reader.
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 12:49:50?PM UTC-8, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> I am told that Liebermann again claims that I never did what is on my resume. The tears flow freely from his eyes as my money in investments makes him feel so little that the only response he could possibly have is to cry that it ain't so.
>>
>> Well, at least we can tell that he is always good for a laugh.
>
>" Your good friend Jeffy tells us that the Dow gained 13% this year so you're lying when you say you lost money"
wrote. Your interpretation of what someone else said is always (and I
do mean always) distorted, misinterpreted and wrong. Also, please not
that when I quote someone, I try to include the source of the
quotation. You don't do that.
>Liebermann is living on food stamps and charity because he doesn't have a passing brain in his head.
have no loans or liens on my house. My 22 year old Subaru is paid
for. I have never applied for or collected food stamps.
Tom - Why do you find it necessary to lie? Do you need more
attention?
Also, you ignored my question. Was your $12,000 market loss for a
year, month, week, or day?
>https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnnavin/2023/10/31/dow-industrials-3-months-of-down-with-major-stocks-breaking-support/
Old news. That was correct for 3 weeks ago. The situation is
different today:
<https://www.google.com/finance/quote/.INX:INDEXSP?comparison=INDEXDJX%3A.DJI&window=1M>
Notice the upward trend in the during the last 30 days. +3% in the
last week for both S&P 500 and Dow Jones.
>Whenever he makes a comment you can be absolutely sure it is wrong because of his stupidity or he is purposely lying.
Optional question: Why do you reply to questions in a different
thread instead of directly to the person asking the question? Are you
like that in person, where you're afraid to face anyone who knows the
truth? No need to explain that you can't follow a thread using Google
Groups. I have the same problem. What I want to know is if you're
doing it intentionally or you don't know how to operate a Usenet news
reader.
John B.
Nov 15, 2023, 11:16:50 PM11/15/23
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On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 18:32:44 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com>
wrote:
Credit where credit is due (:-)
I believe that I'm the one that said that the first entry in his
resume is a lie.
And, I note, he has never rebutted that.
--
Cheers,
John B.
wrote:
I believe that I'm the one that said that the first entry in his
resume is a lie.
And, I note, he has never rebutted that.
--
Cheers,
John B.
Jeff Liebermann
Nov 16, 2023, 12:24:32 AM11/16/23
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On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 11:16:43 +0700, John B. <sloc...@gmail.com>
>>(...)
>I believe that I'm the one that said that the first entry in his
>resume is a lie.
True. You've pointed it out several times. I haven't commented on it
because I see a bigger problem. The time between Tom leaving the Air
Force in 1965 (or 1967) and starting the first job on his resume
(Thoratec) in 1984 is rather large gap of 19 years. This has never
been explained with one exception. Jay Beattie found Tom working at
BCC somewhere between 1969 and 1972. Berkeley Computer Corporation
(BCC). It existed from 1969 to 1972. See document page 27
(distribution list):
<http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/bcc/originals/Admin/BCC_A-11.pdf>
This is the only evidence of Tom's employment at any of
the companies mentioned in his resume. So, in the 19 year gap, Tom
had at least one job, in Engineering Support. Jumping from this to
"Research and engineering of biomedical electronic devices" seems a
rather large jump. Nothing wrong here. I walked into a recession
after graduating from college and ended up studying for teacher prep
and two low grade jobs fixing 2-way radios and installing radios in
cement mixers. I wouldn't have mentioned any of this except that Tom
reacted very strangely when Jay mentioned BCC. I'm curious as to what
happened.
>And, I note, he has never rebutted that.
Tom does not rebut. Most often, he changes the topic. Sometimes, he
just disappears and starts a new thread on a different topic. Other
times, he retorts with an endless back and forth debate where Tom
either fails to understand the talking points or intentionally
misunderstands them in order to frustrate his opponent. Instead of a
friendly technical discussion, this always turns into an ugly and
hostile argument. Lots of examples, but my favorite was Jay's
comments about Tom when he left RBT:
(Dec 9, 2021)
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/4qYIy9_jTY0/m/DJ4RdE76CAAJ>
"So, in conclusion, STFU. At least try to post on
a technical subject, and when doing that, don't
spew nonsense numbers, made-up facts, speculation,
etc., etc."
>>(...)
>>Optional question: Why do you reply to questions in a different
>>thread instead of directly to the person asking the question? Are you
>>like that in person, where you're afraid to face anyone who knows the
>>truth? No need to explain that you can't follow a thread using Google
>>Groups. I have the same problem. What I want to know is if you're
>>doing it intentionally or you don't know how to operate a Usenet news
>>reader.
>Credit where credit is due (:-)
I never give credit. Instead, I charge interest.
>>thread instead of directly to the person asking the question? Are you
>>like that in person, where you're afraid to face anyone who knows the
>>truth? No need to explain that you can't follow a thread using Google
>>Groups. I have the same problem. What I want to know is if you're
>>doing it intentionally or you don't know how to operate a Usenet news
>>reader.
>Credit where credit is due (:-)
>I believe that I'm the one that said that the first entry in his
>resume is a lie.
because I see a bigger problem. The time between Tom leaving the Air
Force in 1965 (or 1967) and starting the first job on his resume
(Thoratec) in 1984 is rather large gap of 19 years. This has never
been explained with one exception. Jay Beattie found Tom working at
BCC somewhere between 1969 and 1972. Berkeley Computer Corporation
(BCC). It existed from 1969 to 1972. See document page 27
(distribution list):
<http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/bcc/originals/Admin/BCC_A-11.pdf>
This is the only evidence of Tom's employment at any of
the companies mentioned in his resume. So, in the 19 year gap, Tom
had at least one job, in Engineering Support. Jumping from this to
"Research and engineering of biomedical electronic devices" seems a
rather large jump. Nothing wrong here. I walked into a recession
after graduating from college and ended up studying for teacher prep
and two low grade jobs fixing 2-way radios and installing radios in
cement mixers. I wouldn't have mentioned any of this except that Tom
reacted very strangely when Jay mentioned BCC. I'm curious as to what
happened.
>And, I note, he has never rebutted that.
just disappears and starts a new thread on a different topic. Other
times, he retorts with an endless back and forth debate where Tom
either fails to understand the talking points or intentionally
misunderstands them in order to frustrate his opponent. Instead of a
friendly technical discussion, this always turns into an ugly and
hostile argument. Lots of examples, but my favorite was Jay's
comments about Tom when he left RBT:
(Dec 9, 2021)
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/4qYIy9_jTY0/m/DJ4RdE76CAAJ>
"So, in conclusion, STFU. At least try to post on
a technical subject, and when doing that, don't
spew nonsense numbers, made-up facts, speculation,
etc., etc."
John B.
Nov 16, 2023, 2:08:05 AM11/16/23
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On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 21:24:17 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com>
><r>
he enlisted in the Air Force he would have to have been 18 years old
so that make his enlistment date some time in 1962 add the 4 year
enlistment and that would be 1966 when he was released from active
duty.
As for BCC, it can't be our very own Tommy boy as the job description
for "Kunich" was shown as Engineering Support and Tommy has repetadly
told us about how he designed all those delicate medical machines.
The company I worked for didn't have a specific "Engineering
Department" as we hired engineers for specific tasks on various
projects but if we did then "Engineering Support" would be something
in the neighborhood of typist or maybe coffee maker. But for employees
listed on tax reports a "Support" person would be the janitors,
drivers, and others of that ilk.
--
Cheers,
John B.
>This is the only evidence of Tom's employment at any of
>the companies mentioned in his resume. So, in the 19 year gap, Tom
>had at least one job, in Engineering Support. Jumping from this to
>"Research and engineering of biomedical electronic devices" seems a
>rather large jump. Nothing wrong here. I walked into a recession
>after graduating from college and ended up studying for teacher prep
>and two low grade jobs fixing 2-way radios and installing radios in
>cement mixers. I wouldn't have mentioned any of this except that Tom
>reacted very strangely when Jay mentioned BCC. I'm curious as to what
>happened.
>
Well, the Internet has it that Tom was born in 1944 and I think when
>the companies mentioned in his resume. So, in the 19 year gap, Tom
>had at least one job, in Engineering Support. Jumping from this to
>"Research and engineering of biomedical electronic devices" seems a
>rather large jump. Nothing wrong here. I walked into a recession
>after graduating from college and ended up studying for teacher prep
>and two low grade jobs fixing 2-way radios and installing radios in
>cement mixers. I wouldn't have mentioned any of this except that Tom
>reacted very strangely when Jay mentioned BCC. I'm curious as to what
>happened.
>
he enlisted in the Air Force he would have to have been 18 years old
so that make his enlistment date some time in 1962 add the 4 year
enlistment and that would be 1966 when he was released from active
duty.
As for BCC, it can't be our very own Tommy boy as the job description
for "Kunich" was shown as Engineering Support and Tommy has repetadly
told us about how he designed all those delicate medical machines.
The company I worked for didn't have a specific "Engineering
Department" as we hired engineers for specific tasks on various
projects but if we did then "Engineering Support" would be something
in the neighborhood of typist or maybe coffee maker. But for employees
listed on tax reports a "Support" person would be the janitors,
drivers, and others of that ilk.
--
Cheers,
John B.
sms
Nov 16, 2023, 12:42:59 PM11/16/23
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On 11/15/2023 3:20 PM, John B. wrote:
<snip>
<snip>
> Yes, I know. The house is a single story, 3 bedroom, built on a slab,
> "mass produced" house that was originally sold for, in the region of
> $70,000, and due to California house inflation is now, subject to
> condition, possibly valued at a much higher price.
>
> It is still a crap house".
The last time it was sold it was $70K. The original price in 1955 was
> "mass produced" house that was originally sold for, in the region of
> $70,000, and due to California house inflation is now, subject to
> condition, possibly valued at a much higher price.
>
> It is still a crap house".
likely around $8-10K.
Tom Kunich
Nov 16, 2023, 1:24:08 PM11/16/23
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The original prices were around $50,000 since that was after the war and the Chevrolet plant was in San Leandro. What would make you think that building materials were free? In 1950 when my father added 2 rooms on our house in Oakland it cost more than $8 G's. And we lived next door to a lumber baron.
John B.
Nov 16, 2023, 6:46:48 PM11/16/23
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On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 10:24:05 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Thursday, November 16, 2023 at 9:42:59?AM UTC-8, sms wrote:
>> On 11/15/2023 3:20 PM, John B. wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>> > Yes, I know. The house is a single story, 3 bedroom, built on a slab,
>> > "mass produced" house that was originally sold for, in the region of
>> > $70,000, and due to California house inflation is now, subject to
>> > condition, possibly valued at a much higher price.
>> >
>> > It is still a crap house".
>> The last time it was sold it was $70K. The original price in 1955 was
>> likely around $8-10K.
>> --
>> 的f you are not an expert on a subject, then your opinions about it
--
Cheers,
John B.
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Thursday, November 16, 2023 at 9:42:59?AM UTC-8, sms wrote:
>> On 11/15/2023 3:20 PM, John B. wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>> > Yes, I know. The house is a single story, 3 bedroom, built on a slab,
>> > "mass produced" house that was originally sold for, in the region of
>> > $70,000, and due to California house inflation is now, subject to
>> > condition, possibly valued at a much higher price.
>> >
>> > It is still a crap house".
>> The last time it was sold it was $70K. The original price in 1955 was
>> likely around $8-10K.
>> --
>> really do matter less than the opinions of experts. It's not
>> indoctrination nor elitism. It's just that you don't know as much as
>> they do about the subject.迫Tin Foil Awards
>> indoctrination nor elitism. It's just that you don't know as much as
>
>There is that expertise of Slocomb showing through his drunken haze again. There are NO houses built after 1940 in San Leandro that were "built on a slab" and only a very few that were outside of the city limits at the time that were.
So? Are you telling us that your house is built on a cellar?
>There is that expertise of Slocomb showing through his drunken haze again. There are NO houses built after 1940 in San Leandro that were "built on a slab" and only a very few that were outside of the city limits at the time that were.
--
Cheers,
John B.
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